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Suicide
Oct 24, 2008 22:09:30 GMT -5
Post by R E D on Oct 24, 2008 22:09:30 GMT -5
soo.. yeah.. Just wondering what other people think about this.
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Suicide
Oct 24, 2008 22:49:36 GMT -5
Post by *hazel on Oct 24, 2008 22:49:36 GMT -5
I think that first, you should try to figure out what's wrong and deal with it. But I picked the second option. If the person really feels that way, then it's fine... but as long as they try to do something about their feelings first.
[edit] Just wondering... why didn't you vote?
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Suicide
Oct 25, 2008 1:16:30 GMT -5
Post by -K.a.Z- on Oct 25, 2008 1:16:30 GMT -5
I said YES IT IS WRONG! Nobody should kill themself if they are set in deep stage of depression. They can get help to overcome it. Everybody has a reason to live! EVERYBODY! Nobody should kill themself if thier brain isn't in the right order. IF you were to kill yourself, what would your family, friends, and everyone around you think? Trust me from personal experiance, even if you attempt suicide, and it doesn' work, your life is screwed. And yes I take a very strong standpoint on this isshue. My uncle commited suicide two years ago.
I personally fall into depression sometimes and I have thought about suicide multiple times, but I never killed myself. After you die you can't change your mind and come back. Other people suffer for what YOU did if you weren't in your right mind. When people commit suicide, the chemicals i nthier brain is usualy off balence, normally causing slight bipolar-ness. When your mind is in a Bi Polar state its not thinking straight, and you don't really want too.
I could write a whole essay on this, but I'll stop there. But yes, thats how I feel on the subject.
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Suicide
Oct 25, 2008 1:54:13 GMT -5
Post by Demitri on Oct 25, 2008 1:54:13 GMT -5
0_0 why...?
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Suicide
Oct 25, 2008 1:57:50 GMT -5
Post by Demitri on Oct 25, 2008 1:57:50 GMT -5
oops, sorry I ment to click "are you insane" ^_^ this is a random poll... ya no I think think it's really wrong to kill yourself. Suicide is a bad way of dealing with your problems, and everyone has a right to live, there is stuff you can do for sadness, or depression. There is ALWAYS something or somone to live for. Dont give up peeps. Trust me, life is worth it.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 1:58:50 GMT -5
Post by R E D on Oct 26, 2008 1:58:50 GMT -5
I'm sorry to inform you that it wasn't just a random poll. I've had to deal with deep depression for eleven years now, soon to be twelve as of Monday. I know what the problem is, and I know it cannot be fixed, by anyone, believe me I've looked into it. I can assure you all that I'm in a very sane state of mind, and that the chemicals in my brain are not off balance, as it has been checked. Even if they were I wouldn't take any sort of medication. I've seen what those pills can do to someone. Just to put it simply, after taking those pills you are a free thinker no more.
Don't worry though, I could never take my own life, I'm to much of a coward to end it myself.
Sometimes people have reasons for their own demise other than what their family or friends may think. I just wonder if it can be justified as a way for that person to set themselves free from the chains and torture they've had to endure, like an old dog lays down when he knows it is his time to go.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 2:10:57 GMT -5
Post by -K.a.Z- on Oct 26, 2008 2:10:57 GMT -5
I know what you are talking about, Red, even though I am only fourteen, I was on those pills for depression. And yes you are right, they no longer make you a free thinker. I kept having thoughts about Suicide, and I almost tried a couple times. I was just too scared to move the chair.
And also, I knew it was not a randomn poll, I get these things, trust me. Im going on my 3rd year of being deeply depressed, and some events that have been happening in my life are not making it any worse. It makes it better if you have somebody that you know you cant trust, usualy not a boyfriend or girlfriend, that you can talk too. A boyfriend or girlfriend will usualy just say that your crazy and crap like that, but mabey a friend that you know will always tell you the truth no matter what.
If you wonder WHY I RP, its not because I nessicaraly like too, tho i do sometimes, its because it helps me controll my thoughts. I used to have to go a councelor 4 times a week for my depression and anger problems, then I stropped going because I don't like people trying to get inside my head.
But, Red, Trust me on this. You are not alone. Talk to somebody, and it CAN be fixed, it just takes time. I have been tested as well, and my chemicals in my brain are not off balence either, and The pills do not help you at all. They make you get more depressed until the point you dont care what happens and you'd step out infront of a moving car if it would make all the weird thoughts stop.
Just trust me, and yes I know im typing alot. YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 2:23:50 GMT -5
Post by R E D on Oct 26, 2008 2:23:50 GMT -5
As I said before, my problem cannot be fixed. Humanity cannot help me. The friend you speak of, is my GF, she understands why I feel the way I do, and tries her best to help, but helping can only go so far before there is nothing more that can be done.
Some peoples problems cannot be fixed, no matter how hard anyone tries.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 2:36:25 GMT -5
Post by -K.a.Z- on Oct 26, 2008 2:36:25 GMT -5
Oh wow. Im sorry. I dont really know what else to say rather than im in the same boat. But yeah... My BF is my best friend but I can't tell him things like this because he would freak out and try and get me back in counseling or something.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 2:46:21 GMT -5
Post by R E D on Oct 26, 2008 2:46:21 GMT -5
To tell the truth I'd rather be back in counseling... I'm not sure why really, but take it from someone who's been there and quit, and had a reason to go back and couldn't... Maybe you should let them in a little, let them find the problems and try to mend them, even if it is only a little. Tell them flat out what's bugging you and why, then they won't have to try their tactics at getting into your head.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 2:55:39 GMT -5
Post by -K.a.Z- on Oct 26, 2008 2:55:39 GMT -5
I was in counceling for a long time, and no matter what they say thats all they try to do. I dont like people getting in side my head, but hey thats just me. Councelors and me? We dont get along. COunselors just listen to you talk and nod there heads pretty much. I dont need to pay to do that. But its your own personal choise.
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 10:48:00 GMT -5
Post by kanuc on Oct 26, 2008 10:48:00 GMT -5
I voted Maybe... Because I really don't know.. Part of me thinks it's wrong but another part thinks that if they are sufferig then it's ok... I don't know which to vote on because people who would want to commit suicide probably have a very good reason in their head, and people who think it's wrong have a very good reason in their head. I don't think I'll ever pick a side, I'll always be a 'Maybe'..
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 14:17:47 GMT -5
Post by Camo on Oct 26, 2008 14:17:47 GMT -5
Hey Red, I'm really sorry you feel that way. But my sympathy is not going to make it any better. I know. When I was back in Elementary School, it was really horrible. It seemed that because I was different and on a more advanced level than the rest of my class, I was far from humanity. When my teacher revealed to the class in fifth grade that I had the reading level of a freshmen in college, it really didn't help my standards one bit! I felt really terrible during that time. Kids called me names behind my back, and the only 'friends' I had, did stuff behind my back and tried to steal my best REAL friends. They didn't understand my predicament either. I found my real comfort in my cat and dog. Diesel, my Great Pyrenees, was always ready to lick my face when I got home. Well, I made it to Middle School, and you know what? I had made friends in the past from playing fast pitch and basketball. I didn't think I would ever see them again, but there they were, waiting for me at the door! I'm popular at school now, and I don't mean that I'm a prep, but that I have a whole lot of friends to confide in. Now when I look back at those other times when I thought I was a real loser, I feel so stupid.
The only time anyone should kill themselves, (this is what I believe), is if they have something like cancer that is really hurting them badly. Some kind of disease that they know they really aren't going to survive, and are in a lot of pain. But they may be able to motivate others, even with that pain. I hope that you don't have a disease like leukemia or something! But believe me when I say that you are not alone. There are millions of others out there that feel the exact same way you do, and if they all committed suicide, our worldwide population of young people would shrink fast. You are almost twelve, correct? So you are reaching that teenage stage where one day you are beautiful and popular and the next day you have a giant zit on your nose and everyone hates you. We all go through it. WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU! If you really feel that bad, get on the Internet and talk to us! I know that everyone here will be more than willing to listen to you! I know Camo here certainly will!
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Suicide
Oct 26, 2008 20:23:44 GMT -5
Post by R E D on Oct 26, 2008 20:23:44 GMT -5
Heh..I said I've been depressed for about twelve years.. not that I am twelve. Monday will be my 22nd birthday.
I've been through ridicule and torment all my life as well, but I can live with that. It isn't the problem that I'm depressed about. Every student aged person gets some sort of bad wrap, from the most humble, to the most popular people in school. It is human nature to mock and fight amongst each other, as dogs tussle for the right to be leader. We live, and we learn, and when we leave school none of that changes. You might find out who your real friends are after you graduate though...as for me, all of mine but one have abandoned me and moved off into their own lives. I don't blame them, and I wish them the best for their futures. The one who hasn't strayed off to find a life elsewhere, has become by girlfriend, and I can only hope and wish that she is happy.
All lives must end at some point, and the lives of others go on even after their deaths. As I've said before, I could never take my own life, I'm to much of a coward to end it myself, so I try to make the best of my situation, which has proven to be extremely difficult considering that the effects of it return every day into my thoughts. Like being trapped in a cage really, with no way to escape. It is not an illness or disease, and the pain is more than physical.
This poll was just a way for me to find out what others think about the concept of suicide. Yes, I have thought about it. Yes, I've tried it more than on one single occasion. Yet I could not bring myself to cut deeper than flesh, nor let myself sink into unconsciousness after part of a bottle of pain pills.
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